Walter Payton Signed Jersey w PSA-DNA?
One of our readers sent us this auction. It has a COA from All American Memorabilia -- does anyone know if they sell authentic autographs? This Walter Payton jersey appears to come with PSA-DNA Authentication, however this is is a PSA letter id from an auction and not PSA-DNA authentication.
The autograph does not look like Payton's and checkout the "Sweetness" inscription, it looks horrible. You can see the auction here.
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This is the type of junk that upsets us collectors. The seller weas smart enough to take down his auction after he knew certain people were watching him. The day after Corey Lidle was killed in that plane crash in New York a ton of fake Corey Lidle autographed went up for bid. How do those people sleep at night doing stuff like that almost immediately after Mr. Lidle was died. I was checking some other stuff on Ebay and it looks as though Ebay is still allowing sellers "Americansportscollectibles" and "Diamondsportslegacy" to sell their fake autograph items. Seller "mik0087" is also being allowed to continue selling their fake autograph items. I will continue to keep everyone updated. Oh and one other note; another seller by the name of "signingtime50" is selling a ton of fake autographed 8X10 photos.
Kingjr22, you sound like I felt two years ago when I first started my own personal investigation into the fake autograph memorabilia industry. Yes I am still "pissed off" but in a more controlled manner, and, I don't think anyone here is going to "bash you" except for the bad guys that read this blog. You are correct when you write that the "problem starts at the top." First of all, the fake autograph memorabilia industry is a billion-dollar-a-year industry. Let's just say that every fake autograph item on Ebay was removed today. That would be a enormous drop in revenue on Ebay and they know that. Are they aware of hundreds (probably more like a few thousand) of sellers selling fake autograph items? Yes they are, make no mistake about that. Here are just two examples of that in seller's "Americansportscollectibles" and "Diamondsportslegacy." Ebay is well aware that those two sellers have sold literally thousands of fake autograph items (and that is just between those two sellers). "Americansportscollectibls" has sold over 3000 just by himself. That is just one seller! Mnay of us thought that after "Operation Bullpen" back in 2000 that the fake autograph memorabilia was a thing of the past. The truth is it was just the beginning. After "Operation Bullpen" Ebay was cleared of any responsibility for that mess even though they made millions in fees off of all that fake autographed memorabilia that was sold. All "Operation Bullpen" did was spawn a generation of copy-cat bad sellers. During my investigation I discovered rings of sellers working together selling the same fake autogrpah items. They all used "mail forwarding" addresses ("Diamondsportslegacy" still uses one). That particular ring was group of seven sellers working together. It took me months to convince Ebay to do something about that ring. That ring sold well over 15,000 fake autograph items, maybe more. That's a lot of money in fees and commissions for Ebay not to mention the Paypal fees. And yes, many of the "bad sellers" use the 1-Day auction to avoid detection and to make quick sales. Ebay can "void" a sale even after the auction has ended but they rarely do it. But what the people who buy all of this fake junk? What are they thinking when they are bidding on that garbage? First of all, you get the people that believe that just because it is on Ebay that it must be a authentic autograph. Or they think that because it comes with a "COA (Certificate Of Authenticity)" that it must be authentic. Anyone can print a "COA" from their PC these days. You get the wannabe collector who wants a cheap authentic autograph and that's why they bid on the junk. What they actually get, of course, is a cheap fake autograph. You also get the buyer who intentionally purchases fake autographs on Ebay so they can resell them on Ebay or at card shows. As Bigtruck about all of the fake Albert Pujols autograph items at card shows in his area. When I go to a card show here in NJ I notice all of the Jeter fakes that I recognized as being sold on Ebay. Those people know exactly what they are buying. Enforcement and education are the key. Checking on a seller's feedback history is key. If you see they have sold a ton of Derek Jeter and Eli Manning autograph items that aren't Steiner Sports, UDA, Tristar, MM, etc. then that has to raise a flag. Ask questions, submit "Quick Opinions." The buyers have kept these "bad guys" in business. The buyers are just as much to blame as anything else. They are literally millions of so-called collectors who now own fake autograph memorabilia that is sitting in their office or home. It doesn't hurt to have some common sense, too. Ebay considers itself a "Open Forum" when it comes to their auctions, but that "Open Forum" should also allow "us" to question the sellers of suspicious autograph items. The double standard is that Ebay sometimes considers that "harassment" which is absurd. Asking questions is "harassment?" There is a seller on Ebay named "simplythebest1933." Until a few days ago his Ebay ID was "diamondsfinest25." He was selling a ton of fake autograph items. When I challenged him on his items he immediately removed his own fake autograph items and changed his Ebay ID. He now sells figurines. And this was a seller who claimed he acquired all of his autograph items in person in New York. I guess my "harassment" worked. The truth is I didn't harass him, I simply challenged the authenticity of his autograph items. I will write more later.
Yes this company seems to allegedly sell fake autographs. Keep a look out on their stuff.
Sports Integrity...yes, I've bought stuff from you before. Good items at a fair price. Everything I have from yu guys is genuine with all of the proper paperwork (GAI, PSA). I wonder how a legit business like yours feels about the many fakes for sale on eBay. Any thoughts?
Yes, Bigtruck, well said. Maybe there is a way for someone to contact Mr. Pujols about all of the fake autographs. Can you imagine the impact of Mr. Pujols contacting Ebay about all the fake autograph items on their site. That would force Ebay to do an about-face on the way they look at fake autographs on their site. It used to be that Derek Jeter's autograph was the most commonly forged on Ebay, now it's Mr. Pujol's autograph that is the most commonly forged. Like in football, the most commonly forged autographs are those of the Manning family, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and Reggie Bush. The low-lifes that sell that fake junk are just that, low-lifes. Intentionally ripping people off. They are crooks. They commit fraud. They do it with the intention of making money by selling fake autograph items. And they do it on all of the auction sites.
This Chipper Jones auto looks kind of fake to me. The 10 looks weird and for some reason it seems the price for signed Chipper pants seems too low.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1&viewitem=&item=290053784520&rd=1
Geez...look at all the fakes that guy sells. Good call anonymous...wish you would create a screen name so that you can be identified to us - at least so that we know who we are addressing.
Anyway, the Chipper auto is fake and so is everything else that guy is peddling. I especially like the Bo Schembechler signed ND football - real classy.
That comment about the Jones auto was from me. I finally created an account. I am sick of all these fakes on ebay. I asked the guy if the pants inside had jones' name and he said something to the extent of it having multiple names. Weird. The auto looked forged and the 10 was not correct. At least it didn't sell high but it is still a shame.
That comment about the Jones auto was from me. I finally created an account. I am sick of all these fakes on ebay. I asked the guy if the pants inside had jones' name and he said something to the extent of it having multiple names. Weird. The auto looked forged and the 10 was not correct. At least it didn't sell high but it is still a shame.
Yes, Devin, I noticed that seller "Americansportscollectibles" put up some suspicious MM items. He also put back up his fake autographed football items from the Manning family, Jown Elway, etc. For some puzzling reason Ebay allows him to continue to sell his fake autographed footballs. I assume it's about all the fees he makes them and they turn a blind eye to the fact that he sells (and has sold) literally thousands of fake autographed footballs. The there's the case of seller "Fansindastands" who last night put up 7 fake Albert Pujols autograph items and 6 fake Derek Jeter autograph items. This is another seller that Ebay has allowed to continually sell fake autograph items. I also asked seller "ernnie0920" a simply question and here is his reply "Are you kidding me??? Do you want pics of them signing this item, you have contacted me about jeter as well?? Would you like proof of the signing who are you you never buy anything??? Who is your group???? You obviously have no idea about what your talking about!!" He immediately got very defensive and my question to him was "Can you please tell me how you acquire your autograph items?" I guess I hit a nerve. You have to understand something about these sellers, before my investigation they had never been challenged about their autograph items. Now they are aware that people like you and I are looking at them. I see that more people are getting involved in this blog, which is a great thing. I also wanted you to know that Bigtruck and myself have contacted a website that has contact with Albert Pujols and we have informed them that we will forward the names of sellers that are selling Albert Pujols fake autograph items. I would love to see Mr. Pujols contact Ebay about the hundreds of fakes on their site every day. More later.
I have heard form many and i see it for myself that American Memorabilia allegedly sells fake autographs. Look at this willie Mays jersey. This is a fake sor sure ebay item 190058291820
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